Dare to drive a Porsche 911 GT3 in heavy rain. How far can you go with cup tires?

911 GT3 in the rain
Reviews & Test Rides

In this issue, my husband wrote an article about running the GT3 in the rain in early July. Please take a look if you like it.

It's been a month since I took delivery of my GT3...

It has been more than a month since the GT3 was delivered to us, and we decided to test its performance in the rain, which we had been curious about.Dare to take GT3 out to Rokko in heavy rainI decided to do this.(No one would normally do that...)

On the day of the event, checking the weather forecast app on my phone, heavy rain was predicted. According to the rain cloud radar, bright red rain clouds were approaching the Rokko mountain range, and it was said that 30-50 mm/h of rain was about to fall. We hurriedly prepared and got into the GT3.

It's the best testing environment.

By the way, I am a self-proclaimed "Bad Weather Driving Mania' and I actually quite like driving in the rain and snow (laughs).

The point to check this time is that the GT3 is newly installed.Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2" tiresThe wet performance of the "M" is the same as that of the "A". Since I like long-distance touring, I often encounter guerrilla downpours. Therefore, I have to be prepared in advance.We wanted to know how well it would perform.

Incidentally, there are two main indicators of wet performance of tires.

The first is.Grip performance on wet road surfacesOne is the "one. And the other is.Water drainage performance (hydroplaning resistance)It's not. I wanted to clarify this because, as far as I can tell, Michelin's website and the technical information on tires do not make a distinction between the two, and they are all lumped together as wet performance.

911 GT3 Touring Package

Running GT3 in heavy rain

Take the K16 (Akashi Kobe Takarazuka line, also known as the "East Rokko Driveway" section) to the top of Mt. (Akashi Kobe Takarazuka Line, commonly known as the "East Rokko Driveway" section) to the top of Mt.This road is good before 8 AM if you want to run on a holiday.After 8:00 a.m., many minivans start heading for Rokko, so the safety car is always leading the way.

However, because of the heavy rain that day, as expected, there was no traffic and the area was almost completely rented out.

While increasing his pace fearfully, he tests the feel of the Cup tires.
No problem at all for normal driving. I don't feel any difference from normal tires.Next, while increasing the pace a little, I try applying sideways Gs on a curve. Again, the car grips more normally than I expected.

What, it's surprisingly good.

If you try to pick up the pace a little more, it is no problem at all if you drive at a slightly faster pace on ordinary roads. When accelerating hard from second gear at the exit of a curve, the rear end slides a little, but the PSM controls it immediately. The rear end slides, but the PSM controls it immediately.

As for grip performance on wet road surfaces, theI felt that as long as the car was driven at a sensible speed on public roads, it was at a level where it could be driven safely.This would make me less nervous in the event of a sudden heavy rain.(But be careful in winter or when the temperature is low.)

In addition, the "Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2" had the best grip in the wet that I have experienced so far. It gripped really well on wet roads. Even though the Boxster is mid-ship, for example, I felt totally safe even when I drove the Fuji Skyline (a circular section) in heavy rain with guns blazing. Compared to the Boxster, it is not as good as the Boxster, but I think it still has enough performance to meet our needs.

Next, we will test the drainage characteristics. This Pilot Sport Cup 2 is what we call a shallow-groove tire.Even new tires have only 5.4 mm grooves, which is distinctly shallower than the 7 to 8 mm of typical tires.However, this is still said to be about 231 TP2T deeper than the previous generation Sport Cup, which is an improvement in groove depth.

In testing the drainage characteristics, it would be risky to actually test it by driving at high speeds, so we did not do so, but decided to feel the change in ground contact on a public road where water was flowing down the road like a river.

First.On a road surface where there is a few millimeters of water on the road surface, it is not different from a normal road surface at all.In particular, there is no hydroplaning-like phenomenon that occurs, nor is there any steering wheel being taken away. Perhaps it is theThe permeable pavement used on many modern highways would not have much of a problem with the rain there.

On the other hand, if the road is obviously puddled or filled with water to the point of flowing, it is indeed easy to be taken off the handlebars. Since the Cup 2 tire has no longitudinal grooves on the outside of the tire, it would be better to be especially careful on curves. It is a subjective judgment, but I would say that the difficulty of steering is about 5 to 7 if the difficulty of steering of normal tires is 10. Therefore, it is recommended to useWhen driving on the highway in the rain, depending on the conditions, it is better to drive at 80 km/h to 90 km/h and be careful of large puddles.

In particular, one should drive with caution on highways that suddenly change from permeable pavement to regular pavement. It is easy to get carried away with permeable pavement, but hydroplaning is likely to occur the moment the pavement suddenly changes to regular pavement.

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Until I tested them, I thought they'd be a more unstable tire in the rain, but in terms of common sense driving.Wet grip does not seem to need to be that nervous.This would work well in sudden rain or bad weather on long-distance touring trips.
On the other hand.In terms of drainage, it would be prudent to be cautious about the number and depth of the physical grooves.

911 GT3

moreI had planned to replace it with the all-mighty Pilot Sport 4S as soon as possible, but this seems like a good idea to give it a little more time.It's not too late to get a little shallower in the groove and experience more different situations. If I discover anything new, I will follow up with a review.

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  1. Cara.

    good morning
    Thank you for all the useful information.

    Michelin same.

    I've been on the same series for a long time.
    Nice tires ( ^ω^ )

    Even in heavy rain during touring
    I don't remember feeling uneasy.
    The same is true at high speeds.

    Maybe it's because I'm a slow driver. lol.

    • Mina.Mina.

      Mr. Cara.
      Thank you for everything you do for us!
      My husband also says, "It looks like I don't have to be so nervous for normal running.
      I hope to see you once in Ashi Ari etc.!

  2. rickshaw man

    I also take my Ferrari or Carrera out when it rains heavily.
    These supercars are said to be unused in the rain, but they have windshield wipers, so let's drive them.
    Many people don't run when it rains, so we would love to have you with us.

    I had heard that cup 2 was too wet weak.
    Not really.

    I too became a wet lover with Eagle F1.

    The Eagle F1 2 was really impressive wet performance.
    It is unfortunate that it has become a little more comfort-oriented with Asymmetric 3.
    If you put an Eagle F1 in a car with a short rear overhang and drive it at high speed in heavy rain, the water splashes up from behind the car like a racing car.
    I was impressed with the drainage performance from the side w

    Continental sc5,6 also have wet grip on par with Eagle F1. haven't tried MC6 yet.

    When I took delivery of my car in February this year, I was hoping for PS4S tires for my Carrera GTS, but P-ZERO.
     Pirelli is not strong in the wet, and apparently the sidewalls are soft or unique.

    • Mina.Mina.

      kurumani arabis (ryokanai)
      Thank you for everything.

      I had heard that >cup 2 was too wet weak.
      >Not so.
      I asked my husband about it, and he said that it's hard to drive on a track or go fast, but
      He said it was fine for normal running.

      However, I still can't run in the same condition as Eagle F1.
      Or as you say, rather, the wet performance of the Eagle F1 is too good! (laugh).

      >When I took delivery of my car in February this year, I was hoping for PS4S tires for my Carrera GTS, but P-ZERO.
      I replaced my Boxster with a PS4S this year, and he said the wet performance of that one was amazing as well.
      Really, it's all about luck when it comes to tires at the time of delivery...isn't it?

  3. Touring package with almost identical specifications

    The car was delivered on May 30, but the tires installed were Dunlop. The tires are different even though they were ordered at the same time. I asked the dealer and it seems that they are either Dunlop or Michelin depending on the production lot.

    • Mina.Mina.

      Mr. Touring Package with almost the same specifications
      How are you doing since the delivery of the car?

      I see that Mr. Touring Package, with almost identical specs, was a Dunlop!
      I asked my husband and he said, "I have heard that Dunlop has better wet performance. I'd like to hear your thoughts on it again".

      If you run in the heavy rain, I would be very happy to hear about it.
      Best regards!

  4. 991-2 GT3 MT

    Thank you very much for your detailed impression. I also ride to work on rainy days, and although I sometimes feel bad about puddles such as ruts, I feel that if it is just WET, I have no problem at all, just like you. The other day, on a day of heavy rain, a low section of a motorway, where I usually don't mind the difference in elevation, became the biggest pond I have ever experienced, and I had to drive around it because there was no way around. I was worried for a few days, but fortunately, I was relieved to hear that there was no problem. Be careful on a day of guerrilla downpour because of the low height of the car.

    • Mina.Mina.

      Mr. 991-2 GT3 MT
      Thank you for everything!
      The grip is not as bad as the public perception.
      It doesn't seem to be a problem.

      >Be careful on days of guerrilla downpours due to the low height of the vehicle.
      Indeed...! I'm glad your car is OK.
      I am a little worried about this summer because it seems that there will be a lot of guerrilla rains and typhoons... ^^..;

  5. Touring package with almost identical specifications

    The car has traveled 3000 km in the first month after delivery, and an oil change was performed at 4000 km. I often travel long distances, such as Tokyo-Aomori and back, Tokyo-Nagano-Niigata-Koriyama-Tokyo. I have an experience of driving in the unusual rain on the Tohoku road, but I drove at 100km/hr because the forward visibility was too poor. I don't have enough knowledge to comment, but I am enjoying the fun of driving since my 993. I will study and gather information here. Thank you for your continued support.

    • Mina.Mina.

      Mr. Touring Package with almost the same specifications

      Thank you for everything!
      I told my husband, "I'm going to run 2,500 km in two months, so tell him I'm going to run as hard as I can so I don't lose.
      Thank you for your continued support!

      I would be happy to exchange more information if you need anything else.