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The Panamera has just been unveiled with a new, minor-changed model, and I was once asked about the best time to buy a Panamera on my blog. This time, I would like to introduce the content of that consultation and my husband's response.

The first thing I received was this consultation(Timing is the end of February 2020)The following is a list of the most common problems with the "C" in the "C" column.

I always enjoy reading your blog. I am pleased to announce that I have been selected for the "970 Panamera 3.6PDK, model year 15.We are considering the "A" and it is in good condition for its age.
Not in the edition, but in the sports-related options.Sprocket is attached and PASM is not attached.
interpoint (interword separation)18-inch tiresI'm wearing
Miraculous price of about 5 million yen despite its good condition.
Porsche Certified Pre-Owned Vehicles.Mileage is 35,000 km and the vehicle inspection expires this February.
Therefore, we are having a very difficult time making a decision without a test drive....
I would like to ask about the performance of the 15 model PDK, the power of the 3.6 NA, the ride quality (without PASM), whether it can be used as a commuter car (I commute about 20 km round trip in Tokyo), etc.Are you Porscheing properly?I would like to ask "what is the best way to do this?
The person in charge pointed out that "the engine may be a little sluggish," "the PDK seems a little jerky," and "there is no thrust like the flat-six.
Of course, we are prepared to resell the Panamera.
We have experience with 5 Porsches and currently own a 981 Boxster with MT, which is a 2 car system. Thank you very much for your cooperation.

In my family, we haveAt the time of your inquiry, I was driving a 971 Panamera, and before that, a 970 Panamera Edition.So I asked my husband about it and responded to him based on his experience, and his response was as follows.

As for the PDK workmanship, it's a late 970, in good condition, and in the low 5 million yen range!I do think it wasn't smooth going from first to second gear.But it didn't bother me much.
As for the power of the NA, of course I think the acceleration at the start is smoother with the turbo, but when I was driving the edition, I had no complaints about the more than sufficient power. I have no problem using it for commuting.
Edition to the 971 Panamera, and when I switched to the 971 Panamera.Can the 971 really surpass this when the edition is so well done? Isn't it impossible?It was such a well-made Porsche that we used to talk about it a lot.
However.My concern is the "no PASM" point.Without PASM, the ride may be a little less comfortable (in comparative terms). If you want to use it comfortably for commuting, it is better to have PASM.
So I would probably stick around a bit longer until a good condition Panamera with PASM is available...

The Panamera (970) that used to be in our house wasThe ride was very comfortable, and acceleration was natural and smooth, just like an NA engine.I remember it like that. My husband did not have high expectations at first because it was a plain Panamera at the time, but when he drove it, he was quite satisfied and liked it very much.

Even though the latest models are improved in many ways, I always think every time I drive a Porsche that it is truly amazing because even the earlier models, sedans and SUVs, still feel like Porsche.

So, some time after I replied to my husband's view, I received this e-mail from the person who consulted with me.

I am also very attracted to the truly elegant styling of the 970. I too had concerns about PASM, but the situation is what it is.I'd like to settle on a Panamera.I think! Thank you for having my back.

Well, I'm glad to hear you say that! It's been a few months since then and I hope you are enjoying your drive in the Panamera.

New Panamera, I'm curious.

The new Panamera was recently announced, and as usual, my husband has been reading related articles and watching videos of the Nürburgring run, but I haven't been able to talk to him about this because I haven't been able to see him yet after the birth.(It's not something I'd bother to call and talk about...)

So, when I see my husband again.How my husband, a longtime Panamera driver, felt about the new PanameraI will talk to them and hope to be able to write another article about that as well.

Incidentally, since I have previously written this article regarding the presence or absence of PASM (seeShould I install PASM, a popular option for Porsche?), I would be happy to take a look if you are interested.

Mina.

Mother of three children, and the owner of the Porsche blog "A Porsche Came to Our House". Until a few years ago, I was not interested in cars at all, but when my husband bought a Porsche, I became...

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  1. isi

    Mina.
    (Wrong article, but congrats on the birth.)

    As for the ride quality of the PASM of the 970, it can be set to three levels of comfort, sport, and sport plus. When set to Sport on the highway, the ride clearly becomes firmer and you can feel the change, but I would still say that it is a good ride.

    Today, I tried it out and set it to sport at 40-50 km/h on a downhill road, but I did not feel much change in this speed range, unlike on the highway. My 970 is a PHEV, so the weight of the battery may have an effect, but the ride comfort is at a good enough level regardless of the PASM setting, so I don't think I need to worry even without PASM as an option.

    I am very interested in the new Panmera...

    • Mina.Mina.

      Mr. Ishi.
      Thank you very much! The baby was born safely ^^

      >I set it to sport at 40-50 km/h on a downhill road as a test, but did not feel much change in this speed range, unlike on the highway.
      I see!
      But it's true that the Panamera is a very comfortable ride to begin with.
      It would be better if it had PASM, but it does not seem to be unsatisfactory without it.

      >I am very interested in the new Panmera...
      I can't wait to try it out!

  2. tomo

    Mina, congratulations on the safe delivery of your baby, even though it is late. I have always found you very helpful and have introduced you to the people at the Porsche Center in Tokyo.

    I am driving a late 970 (14y) 3.6L 18 inch with Sprocket PASM and to tell the truth, it was sluggish until around 40000km. But after that, it is very light and comfortable. I drive on the circuit only occasionally, but the absolute speed is not that high, but the current gas pedal response is very good. The front end of the car is lighter than other grades, so the balance is very good. (It is also possible that the engine was the right one for the job).
    I have a personal impression, but when I compare the PASM without PASM with PASM, it is a little harder than the sport. It was an impression of the feeling that it was a little firmer than the sport without PASM. I usually ride in "Comfort" mode for high speed cruising and in "Sport" mode for long distance travel, so I think it would be better to have PASM for long distance travel. But I think it is comfortable enough without PASM or fixed between Sport and Sport+. I have never had a Cayman without PASM, but it is not like that. If it is helpful, please let me know.

    • Mina.Mina.

      TOMO.
      Thank you! Thanks to your help, I was safely discharged from the hospital and am struggling to raise a newborn baby for the first time in a long time.

      >I have also introduced him to the people at the Porsche Center in Tokyo.
      Thank you! I am very happy!

      >To be honest, it was sluggish until around 40000km. But after that, it was very light and comfortable.
      I see!
      The more you ride, the more the ride changes...it is very deep.
      I am sure that the same model will have a different flavor depending on how you ride it...

      And thank you about PASM! After all, the owner's opinion is valuable!
      I would be happy to learn more from you in the future.

  3. PorscheDreamer

    Coincidentally, I am currently driving a loaner 970 almost identical to the one you talked about. My Carrera is in the hospital with power steering problems.
    A night pass about 30 minutes from the Porsche Center became my first Panamera.
     Dealer loaner car with 55,000km on it, not sure of condition, but could be a sample. No sprocket, no PASM. It has shift buttons instead of paddles. Acceleration is good enough. My wife says it is not scary at full acceleration unlike 991.2 Carrera. There is a moment of torque when starting off slowly.
    The manual shift of PDK is slower than expected and not suitable for winding roads. Especially when downshifting at a sudden deceleration, even if I anticipate a delay and operate the gearshift before the rpm drops, the gearshift does not shift. The buttons are also noisy and clunky. It is better to let the AT do the work here and drive with gas pedal control only. The ride is comfortable enough, but I expected too much and shrugged it off. If it was the same without PASM, I would have preferred 718 Cayman after breaking in.
    Sorry for the unhelpful feedback.

    • Mina.Mina.

      PorscheDreamer.
      Oh, yes! I didn't know that was such a coincidence...!

      Indeed, I think the paddle shifters on the PDK Panamera at the time were slow to respond. (The 971 was a little slow too)
      Compared to the quick response of the current 911, it seems extraordinarily slow.

      Thank you for all the other valuable information you've given us!
      We would also be happy to publish this information in a comment-sharing article.

      Thank you for your continued support.